At the starting signal both Yellow and Blue are over early, and it is an I flag start (Rule 30.1 is in play). At about 4 boat lengths Blue gybes and Yellow tacks back toward the pin end of the starting Line. When Blue reaches the Zone at position 5 Yellow is overlapped inside and to windward of Blue. At position 6 Yellow hails for "mark-room" and Blue hails "no room". At position 7 Yellow's boom hits Blue and Yellow hits the mark. Yellow files a valid protest against Blue and there is no damage or injury as a result of the contact.What rules apply and how do you decide this case?
Intended Answer:
Rules that Apply - Rule 11 windward keep clear, Rule 14 avoid contact, Rule 31 touching a mark
Rules that don't apply at a starting mark when approaching it to start - Section C (rules 18, 19 & 20). See the preamble to Section C of the rules.
Both boats were circling back to start and were approaching the starting mark to start. Therefore, Rule 18 does not apply to the mark, Yellow is not entitled to mark-room and must keep clear of Blue by Rule 11 (windward boat keep clear). Blue does not change course so Rule 16 does not come into play. Yellow also breaks Rule 31 by hitting the mark, and both Break Rule 14 for not avoiding contact.
DSQ Yellow for breaking Rules, 11, 31 and 14. Blue is not penalized for breaking Rule 14 by Rule 14(b) because there is no damage or injury.
As for exonerating Yellow for breaking Rule 31 for being compelled to hit the mark by Blues breach of Rule 14. I don't see this as Dick does. Yellow would have missed the mark if she had gone on the wrong side and stayed clear of Blue, so it does not look to me that she was compelled to hit the mark by any action of Blue. I do agree that Blue might have been better off avoiding the contact and then protesting, because if there was damage she would be DSQ also.
The question of how many circles one must do for braking more than one Rule. The guideline by US sailing is that it is one penalty per incident regardless on the number of rules broken if breaking the other rules was an inevitable consequence from the incident. I've attached the US Sailing Appeal 65 that addresses this and it explains the principal far better than I can. I find no similar ISAF Case so I do not know how this is defined in other jurisdictions.
OK, I'll stick my neck out :-)
ReplyDeleteRacing rules are in effect by the definition "racing" because it is after the preparatory signal.
Section C does not apply by the preface to Section C because the boats have not yet started.
Blue is ROW by Rule 12 and is sailing proper course.
Yellow violates Rule 12 and Rule 31. DSQ Yellow.
-- Radio Newbie
I agree with Radio Newbie that the boats are racing and that Section C rules, especially rule 18, do not apply.
ReplyDeleteBut I think Newbie probably got his numbers mixed up. Blue is ROW boat by rule 11 not 12 as the information given is that yellow is overlapped with blue at position 5.
Also, in addtition to breaking 11 and 31 yellow also breaks rule 14.
Blue also breaks 14 but cannot be penalized since he is the ROW boat and there is no damage or injury, per 14(b).
And, though a moot point, I believe yellow can be exonerated for breaking 31 under 64.1(c) because of blue breaking 14.
Yeah, got the numbers wrong, thus proving I'm a newbie :-)
ReplyDelete--Radio Newbie
I have a question for the BISF guy when he gives us the intended answer.
ReplyDeleteRule 44.1(a) says a boat does not have to take the penalty for breaking rule 31 when she has also broken a rule of Part 2 in the same incident.
But if yellow breaks two rules of Part 2 in the same incident does she have to do two "two turns" penalties? I always thought she did not but cannot find anything in the rules that says she only has to do one "two turns" penalty if she breaks two Part 2 rules in the same incident.
So is it two "two turns" or one "two turns" for breaking 11 and 14 in the same incident?
After reading my own post re yellow being exonerated for breaking 31 because blue broke 14 I wished I could have taken back that far out stretch of the rules.
ReplyDeleteI think BISF guy has it rioght especially with the ref to Appeal 65.
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